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the clock is ticking in the united states on the fiscal cliff, which you are very, very concerned about. the expiration of the bush tax cuts, how do you view this playing out, and what are the implications for the market? >> you know, i think it is very important. last week, the point when the investor attention really starts to focus on this when it is in europe. so it is a big deal, the fiscal cliff, 4% of gdp, secondly, it would hit at a team when it is the consumer's week of the it represents a big danger to the economy, the challenge is it is not discounted into the price. in other words, we're all talking about it. i have met very few investors who believe it will happen. and if we move to an environment where it is likely, it could create volatility in the market. >>> so how do you invest against that kind of back drop? where would you put money to work right now? >> i think there are a couple of things that investors can do. one thing is the people that have the flexibility, right now the options in the market, that is low. you buy insurance for the portfolio that will hopefully
the clock is ticking in the united states on the fiscal cliff, which you are very, very concerned about. the expiration of the bush tax cuts, how do you view this playing out, and what are the implications for the market? >> you know, i think it is very important. last week, the point when the investor attention really starts to focus on this when it is in europe. so it is a big deal, the fiscal cliff, 4% of gdp, secondly, it would hit at a team when it is the consumer's week of the it...
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states. he's too greedy and too disconnected from concerns of the average american. the romney campaign are also running an intensely negative campaign, not based so much on obama's personal characteristics, his values or the idea that he's somehow in some sort of fundamental way corrupt. whereas the obama people are calling romney a charlatan, suggesting he might be a felon because of the -- how he's handled the bane issue, as stephanie cutter did. that's aimed at tearing him down personally. but i don't have any sympathy for romney, that's what he did. the republicans did that. chris: you keep count in the campaign of what romney said every day. do they feel they lost the edge they had coming out of tampa? >> the oconventions were so close together. they had been telegraphing they expected a convention bounce and when they got to tampa, expectations were being tamped down. since the democrats followed so close on his heel. one reason they're so confident, the democrats, that is, is in part
states. he's too greedy and too disconnected from concerns of the average american. the romney campaign are also running an intensely negative campaign, not based so much on obama's personal characteristics, his values or the idea that he's somehow in some sort of fundamental way corrupt. whereas the obama people are calling romney a charlatan, suggesting he might be a felon because of the -- how he's handled the bane issue, as stephanie cutter did. that's aimed at tearing him down personally....
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i want to become president of the united states to get this country on the right track again. america is at a critical crossroads. we have to strengthen the foundation of our economy, of our values, of our principles so we have a military so strong we can defend our freedom and others. put americans back to work and politics and whether i'm highly favored, not highly favored just doesn't enter into the equation. >> would you be satisfied with one term if you could get a deal on averting a fiscal cliff? >> let me tell you, if i can get this country on track again, i'd be satisfied with anything. >> there's still questions, you acknowledged, do people really flow you. i think the question is are you the moderate from massachusetts who championed universal health care, who at one time was for abortion rights or are you the candidate who said he was a severe conservative? what will you be as president? >> i'm as conservative as the constitution. i believe in the principles this nation was founded upon. i understand how our economy works. i've lived in the economy. i also understan
i want to become president of the united states to get this country on the right track again. america is at a critical crossroads. we have to strengthen the foundation of our economy, of our values, of our principles so we have a military so strong we can defend our freedom and others. put americans back to work and politics and whether i'm highly favored, not highly favored just doesn't enter into the equation. >> would you be satisfied with one term if you could get a deal on averting a...
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how does the president of the united states get re-elected with these kinds of unemployment numbers? >> well, because i think people understand the context of his presidency. he was handed the worst set of problems of any president since franklin dell nor roosevelt became president that weren't of his own making, by courageous action he saved the financial system, the automobile industry in this country. we were losing $750,000 -- 750,000 jobs a month, we've had 30 straight month of private sector gains, but significant progress. we're gaining almost 100,000 jobs last month as opposed to losing 750. the stock market has doubled. there are many indications this economy is coming back and the jobs will follow. remember where we were and where we are now. that's what you grade him on as you move the country forward from where it was and the answer is a resounding yes. >> one of the reasons why, fred, people aren't hiring is they don't know what the tax structure is going to look like, what loopholes will be taken out. this was "meet the press" yesterday. and also abc with both mitt romn
how does the president of the united states get re-elected with these kinds of unemployment numbers? >> well, because i think people understand the context of his presidency. he was handed the worst set of problems of any president since franklin dell nor roosevelt became president that weren't of his own making, by courageous action he saved the financial system, the automobile industry in this country. we were losing $750,000 -- 750,000 jobs a month, we've had 30 straight month of...
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. >> bob: bills in the united states congress and -- >> greg: the employment would be worse. everybody talked about how the people are leaving the labor force, going to social security or back to school. if it had the same participation in 2009, the numbers would be at 11.4 -- yes, so in fact, his numbers are like dana wearing lifts. if you took the lifts out, it would be far smaller. >> eric: what is with the every month there is a revision? the 20,000 jobs came out of the economy from june. meanwhile, that was two months ago. here is what happened. the labor department puts up the number. it looks okay. here, but the real number is down here. they don't tell you about it. >> dana: in the bush years it was the other way. they'd be revised upward. >> eric: better. >> dana: yeah. so june would have been better than originally reported. why is it this way? why can't we get better stats on this. bob, cansky you one thing? >> bob: sure. >> dana: something paul ryan recommended in the past which i thought you would like, closing a lot of loopholes including a suggestion that the m
. >> bob: bills in the united states congress and -- >> greg: the employment would be worse. everybody talked about how the people are leaving the labor force, going to social security or back to school. if it had the same participation in 2009, the numbers would be at 11.4 -- yes, so in fact, his numbers are like dana wearing lifts. if you took the lifts out, it would be far smaller. >> eric: what is with the every month there is a revision? the 20,000 jobs came out of the...
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but for the united states and the democratic party, the incumbent president to unilaterally make a determination that that is no longer the case, that jerusalem is not the capitol is coming to me, such a bad sign to the rest of the world and the arabs that it gave me great discomfort and real pause. >> and it's scary. nuclear bombs so close. you suggest israel may have to stand alone. what is the likelihood that the u.s., let alone the rest of the world steps up? >> don't think it will stand alone, but this was a political mistake, a substantial mistake, and something that i think the democrats wish they had back. lori: i wish i had more time. thank you. up next, bill clinton's speech. we go to the in-box. here to talk about his blockbuster 2016 obama's america blockbuster 2016 obama's america . [ male announcer ] how do you trade? with scottrader streaming quotes, any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -- from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade,
but for the united states and the democratic party, the incumbent president to unilaterally make a determination that that is no longer the case, that jerusalem is not the capitol is coming to me, such a bad sign to the rest of the world and the arabs that it gave me great discomfort and real pause. >> and it's scary. nuclear bombs so close. you suggest israel may have to stand alone. what is the likelihood that the u.s., let alone the rest of the world steps up? >> don't think it...
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is that any reason to make some guy president of the united states? is it. there's a reason obama got a bounce and romney did a thud. one guy people really love in charlotte giving the speeches of their lives, bill and michelle and deval patrick and castro. remember what romney got? chris christie up there giving testimonials to themselves. they barely got around to paying for their supper they were so full of themselves. romney has had two chippies, going over to get acquainted with the brits and going to tampa to get the kudos. in both cases he ended up laying more eggs than the easter bunny but people like the easter bunny. joining me is howard fineman and jim vandehei. it seems to me what happened the last two weeks was patently obvious. within convention worked, one didn't. one was sweet, one was sour. one you felt the vibes of happiness. the other one was you felt something but it was usually hatred of the president. >> yeah. well, chris, i spent every evening on the floor of the convention at both conventions, and at the republican convention there wa
is that any reason to make some guy president of the united states? is it. there's a reason obama got a bounce and romney did a thud. one guy people really love in charlotte giving the speeches of their lives, bill and michelle and deval patrick and castro. remember what romney got? chris christie up there giving testimonials to themselves. they barely got around to paying for their supper they were so full of themselves. romney has had two chippies, going over to get acquainted with the brits...
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states. both campaigns quietly admit the president is ahead. the four candidates barnstormed through seven states over the last 72 hours. on "meet the press" mitt romney laid out the task ahead of him. >> i have really two months to be able to convince people i can do a better job than the incumbent. >> vice president biden has set up shop in ohio to give voters an almost daily reminder that romney once suggested it would be best to, quote, let detroit go bankrupt. on "meet the press" romney did his best to shrink the distance between himself and the obama/biden ticket on that very issue with an altered explanation. >> my view was general motors should have gone into bankruptcy earlier. the president resisted that for months. i said, let them go into bankruptcy. help them come out but let them go in. i don't think most americans know that gm went bankrupt. >> it's that last sentence there. in other words, hey, it wasn't just me that was for bankruptcy. so was he. romney also clarified his opp
states. both campaigns quietly admit the president is ahead. the four candidates barnstormed through seven states over the last 72 hours. on "meet the press" mitt romney laid out the task ahead of him. >> i have really two months to be able to convince people i can do a better job than the incumbent. >> vice president biden has set up shop in ohio to give voters an almost daily reminder that romney once suggested it would be best to, quote, let detroit go bankrupt. on...
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what that means is that families in the united states suffer without food. predominant number of those are single parents and children. what are we as a country if we allow children to go hungry in this particular great land? i just came back from africa and saw children who were hungry but yet we were there to encourage better technology to promote agricultural development. but today this congress, this house, republican congress, is cutting $16 billion from the supplemental nutrition program. we can do better. i want to work with this congress to ensure that 50 million people, 50 million americans are not hungry in this great land. let us revisit the cutting of the supplemental nutrition program because our children are begging, they're asking us, do we care? we do care. we cannot cut $15 billion, $16 billion from the supplemental nutrition program with 50 million americans experiencing food insecurity. working americans, americans with children. time, time to stop is now. to support those families. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose d
what that means is that families in the united states suffer without food. predominant number of those are single parents and children. what are we as a country if we allow children to go hungry in this particular great land? i just came back from africa and saw children who were hungry but yet we were there to encourage better technology to promote agricultural development. but today this congress, this house, republican congress, is cutting $16 billion from the supplemental nutrition program....
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states of america, only our military could have pulled this off and it was a great statement to the world and to the american people and it does come. >> rose: and of the president's support, respect and support for the militay men and women who were involved in that mission. >> right. >> rose: tha they could do it. he understood the risk but he believed in them, because he put his -- he put the country to a risk in a degree because gates said this to me, it mighthave affected because of pakistan it may have affected what happened in afghanistan. >> oh, absolutely, yes. >> rose: an he was recommending, it is easier to just go and bomb the place and level it. >> right. and the president chose another way. >> he had total faith in the military's ability to pull this off. that was never a question in his mind. i mean, once they went through and we have seen our military perform over there every night doing these sort of missions in many different ways, this was a unique one, but there are a lot more threatening ones that they do every night than even this one, so it was a remarkable ex
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states have been trying to achieve since the progressive party bull moose party platform of 1912, 100 years, seven presidents tried, including some publicans, none succeeded until barack obama. and i asked the president, your advisors were against this, why did you do it? and he said, well i told nancy pelle city i may not get re-elected if i did this and so i repeated the question, why did you do it. >> if we didn't do it now it wouldn't have happened and to me that is the mark of a president who is showing leadership. you might not like it. >> rose: yes. >> but it is leadership. >> rose: i would say the following, john, i hear you and i know all of that, i have heard that conversation, i believe with a that even though he said i might not get re-elected he didn't for a moment believe that he would not get re-elected because his own confidence in himself was so strong. >> absolutely true. yes, he is extremely self-confident individual. >> even at this moment he understands intellectually the challenge and the risks and where the numbers are and all of that, i think in his gut, though
states have been trying to achieve since the progressive party bull moose party platform of 1912, 100 years, seven presidents tried, including some publicans, none succeeded until barack obama. and i asked the president, your advisors were against this, why did you do it? and he said, well i told nancy pelle city i may not get re-elected if i did this and so i repeated the question, why did you do it. >> if we didn't do it now it wouldn't have happened and to me that is the mark of a...
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across the united states. the only time i've ever had a break is when i was on maternity leave. i have retired from doing this one thing that i loved. now, i'm going to be able to have the time to explore something different. it's like another chapter. >> if we continue this, it will be a disaster. that is the anxiety of the country. i keep saying winter is coming and you better understand that. charles: that was during our last hour reacting to mitt romney's slip in the latest polls. remember you have to tune in every day at 9:20 a.m. eastern time for farney and company. the dow is kind of fighting back here. let's take a look at gold. still down seven dollars. 17.33. not a big change in gas prices over the weekend. the national average still $3.82. he still holding out $4.11. president obama attacked mitt romney's plan. on friday in new hampshire, the president defended his administration for creating jobs. >> today we learned that after losing 800,000 jobs a month when i took office, business once again add
across the united states. the only time i've ever had a break is when i was on maternity leave. i have retired from doing this one thing that i loved. now, i'm going to be able to have the time to explore something different. it's like another chapter. >> if we continue this, it will be a disaster. that is the anxiety of the country. i keep saying winter is coming and you better understand that. charles: that was during our last hour reacting to mitt romney's slip in the latest polls....
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all they can do is keep passing laws against the citizens of the united states. i don't understand that. host: a tweet -- here's a story from the usa today -- let's listen to mitt romney on nbc. [video clip] >> i say we are going to replace obamacare with my own plan. even in massachusetts where i was governor, our plan dealt with pre-existing condition. allnot getting rid of health care reform. there are a number of things i like in the health care reform that i will put in place. to make sure those with pre- existing condition can get coverage and to ensure the marketplace allows for individuals to have a policy that covered their family up to whatever aid they might like. i want individual to able to buy insurance on their own as a post only being able to get it through their company. host: that was mitt romney yesterday on meet the press. here is a headline from the financial times -- the story about youth, but first one more call from glen on our independent line in oklahoma. turn down your tv so we can hear you. you are on the air. what do you have to say t
all they can do is keep passing laws against the citizens of the united states. i don't understand that. host: a tweet -- here's a story from the usa today -- let's listen to mitt romney on nbc. [video clip] >> i say we are going to replace obamacare with my own plan. even in massachusetts where i was governor, our plan dealt with pre-existing condition. allnot getting rid of health care reform. there are a number of things i like in the health care reform that i will put in place. to...
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states does. 7 united states has been asking israel to continue to wait and give it more time. the war drums are continuing to beat as the israeli prime minister is giving interviews and talking about red lines. both iranian president, the israeli prime minister, and president obama will be in new york more the u.n. meeting. just to give you an idea of the things we are seeing here. the paper here. this was the weekend edition of the daily papers. you can see the men who would lead the attack into iran. the headline says, it's in our hands. back to you. megyn: leland, thank you. questions about three of barack obama's top staffers. do they have too much influence and why is one getting secret service protection on your dime. a critical moment in the 20th century when o.j. simpson tried on the gloves. now a bombshell allegation from one of the prosecutors and the response. >> you look at o.j. simpson over there and he has a rather large head. o.j. simpson in a knit cap from two blocks away is still o.j. simpson it's no disguise it makes no sense it doesn't fit, fit does fit, you
states does. 7 united states has been asking israel to continue to wait and give it more time. the war drums are continuing to beat as the israeli prime minister is giving interviews and talking about red lines. both iranian president, the israeli prime minister, and president obama will be in new york more the u.n. meeting. just to give you an idea of the things we are seeing here. the paper here. this was the weekend edition of the daily papers. you can see the men who would lead the attack...
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congressman, a nice little bounce for the president of the united states. neil newhouse, though, the romney pollster put out a memo saying don't get too worked up about the latest polling. while some voters will feel a bit of a sugar high from the conventions, the basic structure of the race has not changed significantly. but i assume these numbers are not encouraging right now. tough do some work. what's the strategy? >> well, the strategy to continue to talk about jobs and the economy because, yeah, they did get a little bit of a sugar high an you get a number of days with unfettered access to the immediate why and american people but when you go mono-e-mono and talk about jobs, the economy and the president's record or a lack of a record i think the focus then is who's the best to lead us forward and put america back to work and i think that's clearly mitt romney and paul ryan. >> why didn't romney get a sugar high after the republican convention? >> immediately rolled in to the democratic convention. no excuses. october 3rd and then start to have debate
congressman, a nice little bounce for the president of the united states. neil newhouse, though, the romney pollster put out a memo saying don't get too worked up about the latest polling. while some voters will feel a bit of a sugar high from the conventions, the basic structure of the race has not changed significantly. but i assume these numbers are not encouraging right now. tough do some work. what's the strategy? >> well, the strategy to continue to talk about jobs and the economy...
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so far the united states has declined to do that. secretary of state hillary clinton has publicly said in the past few days she does not endorse the idea of a deadline on the iranian nuclear program. the iranians have played their cards very well, they continue to have these nuclear talks on the one hand, on the other hand they continue to enrich uranium, they are continuing forward with their nuclear program. the rhetoric here is from the israeliss, we are willing to delay a military strike, which the united states has said they want the israelis to do, if america makes some kind of public promise about an attack. so far the words from secretary clinton though don't seem to show the united states is willing to do that, martha. martha: so, there has been a lot of discussion about perhaps an imminent attack coming from israel to takeout some of those facilities. where does all that stand now? >> reporter: if you read the israeli papers in the past month or so they said an attack was virtually guaranteed before the u.s. elections in no
so far the united states has declined to do that. secretary of state hillary clinton has publicly said in the past few days she does not endorse the idea of a deadline on the iranian nuclear program. the iranians have played their cards very well, they continue to have these nuclear talks on the one hand, on the other hand they continue to enrich uranium, they are continuing forward with their nuclear program. the rhetoric here is from the israeliss, we are willing to delay a military strike,...
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illinois senator dick durbin, the number two democrat in the united states senate, is here with us. good morning, senator. good to see you. >> i'm buying that guy's pizza. >> yeah, no kidding. under any circumstances. senator, thank you for being with us. this convention bounce, let's just talk about this for a second. gallup has a daily tracking poll and it shows that the choice for president obama right now is 49%, versus last tuesday, which is 47%. mitt romney has gone from 46% down to 44%. a two-point switch over to president obama. is that a convention bounce or is it something else? >> well, i think it could be partially the convention. somewhat the economic news. it's been a positive experience. you know, some of the speeches there, michelle's speech i think was the most-watched speech as of that point from both conventions. and then bill clinton's speech, which for many of us who are political animals, was a tour de force for the whole campaign to end on a positive, forward thrust. and the president hit it out of the park. so we felt it was a great convention. very little di
illinois senator dick durbin, the number two democrat in the united states senate, is here with us. good morning, senator. good to see you. >> i'm buying that guy's pizza. >> yeah, no kidding. under any circumstances. senator, thank you for being with us. this convention bounce, let's just talk about this for a second. gallup has a daily tracking poll and it shows that the choice for president obama right now is 49%, versus last tuesday, which is 47%. mitt romney has gone from 46%...
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states is go to taco bell. >> two tacos and a bean burrito. >>> welcome to "cbs this morn ing. "in a "60 minutes" interview one of the navy s.e.a.l.s who killed osama bin laden revealed never been known step by step details of the information. the amount of information and drama description were unprecedented. >> the s.e.a.l. who wrote the book calls himself mark owen. in an interview with scott pelley he describes approaching bin laden's room after the scene kimm killed khalid. >> give me a sense of the scene. are they yelling, charging up the stairs? >> it's not like the movies. movies make it out to be loud and crazy and everybody's yelling. this is what we do. we're really good at it. it's quiet, calm, like we've done it a million times before. we know the saying. don't run to your death. nice and slow. we head up the stairs. >> khalid is dead on this landing. the point man is stepping past khalid. now you're number two in the stack. you're right behind the point man. >> yep. i kind of look around, hear him take a couple shots. see a head, somebody disappear back into the r
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who will be the next president of the united states? i was surprised that it seemed like this is not something he stumbled on. governor romney made it clear yesterday, i'm not going to get rid of all healthcare reform. i like some of it, including preexisting conditions, that carrying over, and i like the fact that you can stay on your parents' family plan if you wanted to. listen. >> i'm not getting rid of all of healthcare reform. of course, there are a number of things i like in health it is care reform that i'm gog put in place. one is make sure those with preexisting conditionget coverage. two is assure the marketplace allows for individuals to have policies that cover their family up to whatever age they might like. >> gretchen: the two most important -- these are the most popular parts of obamacare. the republicans probably -- agreed, they could have found compromise. one thing left out was tort reform. i think that's where romney would take in that direction, keeping some of these very few things, in effect. >> steve: he's made
who will be the next president of the united states? i was surprised that it seemed like this is not something he stumbled on. governor romney made it clear yesterday, i'm not going to get rid of all healthcare reform. i like some of it, including preexisting conditions, that carrying over, and i like the fact that you can stay on your parents' family plan if you wanted to. listen. >> i'm not getting rid of all of healthcare reform. of course, there are a number of things i like in health...
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breaks all records in the united states senate. all of these republican filibusters are an effort to stop things from moving forward. mitch mcconnell spelled it out. we're here to make him a one-term president and our job is to say no mp they've done it repeatedly. we always have 53 votes. we have a veterans jobs bill that may get through, but you have to look at it and say there's a real record of obstruction there. look at the farm bill. we passed a transportation bill and farm bill. sent it to the house and they fell flat on the face. they wouldn't call our bill. now we're in a situation with the disaster across the united states, the drought, and the house can't pass a bill. >> the republicans will say the same thing about harry reed. a lot of finger pointing going back and forth. >> how many of those bills were bipartisan coming out of the house? >> right. >> virtually none of them. it's run the flag up. let's throw something at solynd solyndra, let's throw something at -- >> is harry reed bipartisan? >> he has been. he can po
breaks all records in the united states senate. all of these republican filibusters are an effort to stop things from moving forward. mitch mcconnell spelled it out. we're here to make him a one-term president and our job is to say no mp they've done it repeatedly. we always have 53 votes. we have a veterans jobs bill that may get through, but you have to look at it and say there's a real record of obstruction there. look at the farm bill. we passed a transportation bill and farm bill. sent it...
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states. >> where would you cut? >> i would means test heavily social security, medicare, drastically reduce defense spending. >> how would you handle medicare? would you like a voucher program? >> it's too late for that. you need to simply means test it, so if you're affluent, you're going to pay a much higher premium. everybody needs to pay bigger copays, bigger deductible. >> the equivalent of raising taxes on some people. >> we have to raise taxes on everybody. the bush tax cuts, all of them, for everybody. we cannot afford them. we couldn't afford them then. >> he's not the guy you thought he was. you want him to come in, you were going, we're not worthy, we're not worthy. that's not who he is, and you've written these things about the fantasy of the -- if you ever wrote about the obama budget it would be a nastier piece. >> the reason i haven't done that is i assumed people could see that. >> you can't assume that. we're going to meet all the actresses, you want to be a left winger so you can meet hollywood, th
states. >> where would you cut? >> i would means test heavily social security, medicare, drastically reduce defense spending. >> how would you handle medicare? would you like a voucher program? >> it's too late for that. you need to simply means test it, so if you're affluent, you're going to pay a much higher premium. everybody needs to pay bigger copays, bigger deductible. >> the equivalent of raising taxes on some people. >> we have to raise taxes on...
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karl rove thought citizens united would be the ticket. they were going to write checks and buy the presidency and buy the white house. it is not working out that way and i think the real test in fund-raising will be october. if people realize that you know, is there going to be a conventional wisdom that this thing has completely flipped away from romney. because that was really the one advantage they had and as of today, even that has evaporated. >> john: i'm really shocked. i think you're right eric. one of the things we discussed on the current tv coverage of the conventions last week was how citizens united in the beginning was seen to completely help the g.o.p. and the irony is it has hurt republican voters because throughout the primary season, fans of real conservatives like gingrich or santorum saw their candidates mowed down by the mitt romney money machine so the republican race for the nomination citizens united hurt the conservative voting base. >> here's the other irony is citizens united, karl rove said ah-ha! i know more bi
karl rove thought citizens united would be the ticket. they were going to write checks and buy the presidency and buy the white house. it is not working out that way and i think the real test in fund-raising will be october. if people realize that you know, is there going to be a conventional wisdom that this thing has completely flipped away from romney. because that was really the one advantage they had and as of today, even that has evaporated. >> john: i'm really shocked. i think...